A little flying and fixing of the Tach cable

 

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Have been laying a bit low is all. Crazy time of year with my “real job” doing PR and getting ready for the upcoming season. Not to mention the extremely lousy weather we have had recently has also kept me diverting my attention a bit.

We are currently seeing 80mph winds and have received a lot of rain. Thinking about building an ark soon if this keeps up. The guys in the NW look to be getting the same… #-o Looking forward to the snow!

Long story short, I have been flying, just not as much lately. Hopefully that will change in the next week!

Ever wondered what your Tach cable looks like? Here you go. Its a cable inside a cable. The small steal piece is what broke off the cable last week. This had me grounded when Zane went flying with the Bearhawk crew… #-o
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Its pretty long. It runs from your engine, through the firewall and connects to the Tach.
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A qucik trip to the resevoir. All beaches are a go now as the water levels are very low… =D>” /> <img title=
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The MT is working out great! I would encourage all of you to purchase one!
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And a little mud on the tires is always nice
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My fingers are crossed for some good weather this next week. Thinking about a flying mission somewhere. Will have to sess out what the rain has done.

Enjoying your thread on the BCP site Bigrenna! Love your avatar name. “BigRenna”…makes me think about those 1-800 numbers and who is actually on the other end… :lol:

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MT vs MAC Prop…The shoot out!!!

First off, I must say, I was VERY skeptical about the MT prop. I also know that my report here may bring some of its own skeptism and I realize that. This report is for you to ponder on and please remember, this test was done for me, by me and for my own airplane. Yours is different.

I have heard all the various reports from folks, good and bad along with the “you know, you may end up liking that MT prop, but its MAC that will end up coming to grab you from somewhere when you stranded”…Probably because they simply did not try out the MT.

After flying both the MT and the MAC as well as the big 2 blade MAC, I can say they both have their own pros BUT I have “yet” to find a con with the MT.

Additionally, dealing with both Larry and John at Flight Resources has been nothing short of honest and great to deal with. I tried to call McCauley several times and did not get very far only to get a rep of some short dissing the MT with zero experience using one. Just hearsay from them and lots of speculation. The folks at Flight Resources have never dissed the MAC and have only said, “Just wait until you try the MT. It will speak for itself”. I can tell you here, it has!

The “Pull Test” for both props was done with the very same conditions. My mechanic and I were going to do all the conversions and K factors for sea level and honestly, it made our/his head hurt. I know some of you are incredibly smart here so I ask you to do that for us, please….and then report here obviously. I am very curious what the sea level numbers would look like. My engine is 285hp.

Here you go-
Field elevation: 4900′
Temp: 15c or 59f
Dew: 1c
RH: 39%
Altimeter: 30.30

We did the test twice for each pull starting at 2000rpm and noted the Manifold Pressure. The prop was all the way in and the engine was leaned out and then brought back to peak. Not lean of or rich of, just peak. We also wanted 2700 RPM for the MAC and 2675 for the MT. I know that will bring a question and I will let the professionals speak as to why MT only wanted 2675.

MAC
RPM Manifold Pull #1 Pull #2
2000 2150 375 380
2300 2200 540 531
2400 2250 600 593
2500 2300 686 662
2600 2400 750 755
2700 2470 823 811

Overall Average for the MAC = 817 lbs

MT
RPM Manifold Pull #1 Pull #2
2000 2150 470 460
2300 2200 670 665
2400 2250 778 770
2500 2300 868 870
2600 2400 (Did not reach above 2500rpm on these two tests. We then changed the “Fine Pitch Setting”)
2700

MT with fine pitch setting change
RPM Manifold (same as above) Pull #1
2000 378
2300 537
2400 597
2500 674
2600 737
2675 832

Overall Average for MT 851 lbs

So here comes the math questions for you really smart number guys???
So we came up with 243 horses pulling at 4900′ on this day. a .79 difference between sea level and 4900′..does this sound correct? That would mean the engine pulled 3.36 lbs per each horse. Sound good?
For the MAC we got the 817lb average
For the MT we got the 851 lb average

What would sea level show? Steve Knopp was able to get over 1100 at his factory in WA with his Mac test you can watch on You Tube. Every scale is also different. I got mine from Flight Resources. I am curious about sea level numbers.

The actual weight difference:
MAC with spinner = 77lbs
MT with spinner = 55lbs

22lb difference or 33% less off your nose

Some notable differences.
At start up, the MT “clicks” as you hit the start button. The MAC has very heavy clicks with some continued momentum. Once the MT fires, it goes now. (actually startled me as it went into high speed revolutions quickly and I brought the throttle to neutral immediately).

The breaking power as you roll the prop back in was similar to the MAC however I feel as though it was noticeably different. I almost came out of my seat.

One thing I really thought was incredible was the spool up for a go around when power was applied at the vey last moment. I was purposely set up to land with all configurations set, flaps at 40, prop in and back to almost idol and then went to apply power and it was NOW!! The climb and power was incredible.

On take off you really notice the PFactor on both. The MT at first almost caused me to ground loop. (not really, but I needed more right pedal than what I have been used to). One of my buddies watching got on the radio and said “woaaahh, how was that?” My response was “WOW, very powerful”

The two props are designed very differently. I did the time to climbs and short take off tests with the MAC but have not done them with the MT yet. I just have not had the time.

The numbers above are very accurate and I owe a big thanks to my mechanic Kevin who works at Nervio Aero Service. Those guys are very good out there. I also owe thanks to the several individuals that came out to help with this.

Take these numbers as you see fit. I am not a 135 guy but I do fly a lot and in rough conditions. Time will only tell how the durability with the MT ends up. For now, I am sold. It was only $3500 more than the MAC but the thrust to me is worth every penny.

AKT

November 3rd…My sisters birthday

So I had a great day today with my sister. She also turned 36 today so I figured she would get the tour of our north circuit.

Lots to do in the north. Photos will tell today’s tale.

1st landing “Stampede #1”
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#2 was the “Bumpy Barn” She started collecting things the second we arrived
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Still collecting old stuff
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Two beautiful owls..actually saw 3 of them
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I could sure make a lot of stuff out of this… #-o
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#3 was up to “Flat top” or “Robs Flyby Stacey”…the view is always great up here
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And then to “Dead Cow”…or maybe we should now call it Dead Coyote
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And some target practice since we have something to shoot at
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She is a pretty good shot…check out the skips
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Yeah, I know, you got it
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And then she flew us home
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It was a good day!

AKT

More photos from our fly in

Getting ready to load up a bunch of really good shots from our photographers out with us. All of you have some amazing shots!!! Obviously I am partial to these but everyone has shots like this. Link coming shortly…

Red Wagon close
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One wheel water skiing
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3 shot gun shell departure
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What may be my new favorite
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Approach into “Wild Horses”
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Pretty bird… :D
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Red Neck Special
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Red Neck gathering
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Wild Horses Pano
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High Desert Fly-in 2012 Photos and links

High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby robw56 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:30 pm

I figure this fly-in needs its own dedicated photo and video thread so here it is. Thanks for putting this together Kevin! One of the best fly-ins I’ve been to. =D>” /></p>
<p>First plane to the fly-in 2 years in a row now! We got in friday night and had the place to ourselves.<br />
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Tieton couldn’t have been happier
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We went to breakfast in Minden the next morning and when we came back there were already several planes on the ground.
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No fly-in is complete without a flame thrower, so Lowrider brought it in the 206
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At Three Wagons
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The sand was pretty deep
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Mike landed down lower in the firm sand
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We had quite the selection of firearms to shoot
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Kevin landed a new spot
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Too bad this came out blurry
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This is what’s left of a pumpkin we threw out of the 170 at 1000agl
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Desert sunrise
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This was a pretty gnarly spot for the 170, there’s some big rocks in there
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I had a tailwind takeoff so I played it safe and left Stacey on the ground. I was going to have someone with more horsepower come in and pick her up. I was able to land at a smoother longer spot about a half a mile away to pick her up. We now call this spot Stacey’s Ridge.
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This is where I picked Stacey up again
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On to the next stop, Wild Horses
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Back to Three Wagons
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It was fun making curved takeoffs around this bowl
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Light sand good, dark sand bad… Good thing we had about 15 people to help push him out
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Re: Three Shot Gun Shells and a Pair of Shoes 2012

Postby aktahoe1 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:35 pm

Nice work Rob! Just home and looking at my pics as well.

You should change the thread name to “High Desert Fly-IN 2012”

Here is a great photo to keep some folks guessing for a bit… :shock: …I think his new nick name is “MudFlaps”
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What a great time! 26 planes in total (maybe a couple more) and 17 over night… =D>” /> <img title=If it looks smooth, it might be. If it looks rough, it is…www.bigtirepilot.com …www.alaskaheliski.com

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Re: High Desert Fly-IN 2012

Postby aktahoe1 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:56 pm

A few more photos…

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Re: High Desert Fly-IN 2012

Postby 58Skylane » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:58 pm

Great turn out of planes and pilots! If things go my way and work out, hopefully I’ll be able to join you guys next year[-o<
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Re: High Desert Fly-IN 2012

Postby 260Driver » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:22 pm

Looks like no-one had a good time…bummer :wink:

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It was great to see y’all…let’s do Gravelly!

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Re: High Desert Fly-IN 2012

Postby OregonMaule » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:33 pm

Glad y’all had a fun and safe time. That guy that likes mud, send him my way, I’ll fix him right up.
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Re: High Desert Fly-IN 2012

Postby aktahoe1 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:45 pm

Very nice pics Jeremy!!!!

A link to pics I took with my little point and shoot…
https://picasaweb.google.com/115528061092467996033/HighDesertFlyIn2012

Looking forward to seeing all the others…

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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby robw56 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:01 pm

Awesome pics Jeremy!
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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby AvidFlyer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:18 pm

Awesome pictures! Wish I could of been there. I’ve logged 16hrs flying from California to Hawaii to Okinawa the past two days and got some good pics of Iwo Jima but it’s just not the same as low and slow!
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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby MCH » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:50 pm

WOW!!! That was a blast! I think it was C170 Pete who said “That was the best fly-in since….forever.”
Thanks to Kevin, his dad, and Lowrider for their hospitality and firewood!
Thanks to everyone else for putting up with our crazy dog.
It looks like we missed out on some great flying and stories today.
“Mud Flap” appears to be a magnet for adventures!!!
Can’t wait for Gravelly Valley!

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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby mountainmatt » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:34 pm

Awesome pictures, looks like a blast. =D>” /></p>
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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby Zzz » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:05 pm

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Re: High Desert Fly-In 2012

Postby blackrock » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:16 pm

That was a lot of fun and it was great to meet everyone. Next time we need more Nevada residents as we were seriously outnumbered. Yes Joe, Russ, Andy, Hal, Jay, and Gump that is meant for you!

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